Bronze or GM?

[mcparty]

Hello everyone!

I'm still somewhat new to the forums and had a quick question about the difficulty of each of these mazes. I have both the bronze and the GM and I have been working on bronze for a while now. I am really stuck and struggling around the area of the pool. I know that the website lists GM as easier than bronze, but I am wondering if this is true. Additionally, I have not yet developed mapping skills, so I am trying to determine which of these two is going to help me to begin this mapping ordeal.

Very interested to hear everyone's feedback on these two and where they fall.

Also, I am looking to buy a blue, aqua, and/or green if anyone is interested in parting with theirs.

Regards,

Mike

[rodrigue10]

Gunmetal might be a good start for mapping since the maze allows you to navigate most of the maze. it would help you get an understanding of the space you need to map and to refine your techniques for measuring rotation and shaft position.

Bronze i would say is easier to understand in regards to solving since the trick is more well behaved than gunmetal.

[mcparty]

Gunmetal might be a good start for mapping since the maze allows you to navigate most of the maze. it would help you get an understanding of the space you need to map and to refine your techniques for measuring rotation and shaft position.

Bronze i would say is easier to understand in regards to solving since the trick is more well behaved than gunmetal.

Thanks for the reply. Are there more effective ways to map? I have seen some people use mm markings on the shaft and record as they turn, but I am having a difficult time figuring out the best way to begin. How do you measure shaft position on your maps?

I have already read through the mapping challenge thread.

[rodrigue10]

A vernier caliper is going to be your friend for measuring in and out position of the shaft. Then you have to keep in mind which side of the pin your measuring from. Rotation is best measured in deg/radians. Take a piece of paper and wrap around the smaller diameter part of the sleeve and put markings on it. Then put a mark on the core so you can determine the rotation. It's best I found to get the rotation "calibrated" so the maze start is 0 degrees. If I have time I'll send you a pic of my setup.

This all takes practice, but you can make extremely accurate maps this way....that and they take a while to make.

[mcparty]

I would love to see the set up that you use for your measurements and for the mapping. I don't want to see any sort of map itself, unless it can be provided without giving away any sort of clue. However, I think seeing the set up will be very helpful for me.

[rodrigue10]

I attached a pic of the "scale" that i put on the sleeve to measure rotation. I have a trainer that i put on the core end with a black line as my indicator. you could also put some scotch tape on the "nut" of the core and draw a line on it. The caliper portion is pretty straight forward and you can pick one of them up cheap online or a hardware store. Just need to pick a reference spot on your core as your zero distance for in and out.

hopefully the pic goes some insight into how to go about mapping.

[mcparty]

Wonderful! That provides me with quite a bit of guidance. Hopefully, I can get my set up going soon. I am still waiting on my trainers in the mail.